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[Damian]

According to the latest issue of Screaming Tarts fanzine

Don't you mean Bubblegum Slut fanzine Damo?
http://www.myspace.com/bubblegumslutzine

Ginger said "we have a surprise in store that some people will find awesome and some will find annoying."

Allow me to slap myself silly. You are of course right. Sorry.

It was the sentence after: "It's a way of using all the songs in a more interesting way than just making an overlong album, something that I don't think anyone appreciates anymore"... that made me think about singles, which are very much a dying breed. But it could equally have meant that nobody appreciates anymore that albums should be brief, or something else entirely.

I'm cool with any option, as long it's not exclusively 7 inch singles which I have no means of playing!

[Sarc]

An online only ep maybe?

The Used did it with their last album (Lies for the Liars), for some reason (more money me thinks though they deny it) they signed various deals with different stores over in america and Itunes and the different stores stocked a different version of the album, each album had the main 11 tracks but then had two different bonus tracks tucked on to the end or in Itunes case just the one a few months after the album came out and a lot of people had a bit of a moan about it, me included, they released an online only jobby (Shallow Believer) that was supposed to be an ep but with all the extra tracks from the releases they had enough for an odds and sods album.

I hardly think the wildhearts would go to that extreme but if the UK release has ten tracks, the japanese one has fourteen and there are plenty more we're supposed to hear then unless the band a reverting to their east west like output (three bsides per single) I think an online ep maybe the way forward.

[Jason_scorching_past]

I will definitely go for the Japanese release, I'd much prefer a cd to download- only singles.

I wonder what Ginger means when he says some will find it awesome and some annoying. I can't understand what many fans would find annoying?

[Sarc]

I can't understand what many fans would find annoying?

I.............cant;.................help it...................................................must resist...........................................ENDLESS NAMELESS

[Jason_scorching_past]

I can't understand what many fans would find annoying?

I.............cant;.................help it...................................................must resist...........................................ENDLESS NAMELESS

Cmon only 1 in 10 fans finds EN annoying.

[Jason_scorching_past]

It was the sentence after: "It's a way of using all the songs in a more interesting way than just making an overlong album, something that I don't think anyone appreciates anymore"... that made me think about singles, which are very much a dying breed. But it could equally have meant that nobody appreciates anymore that albums should be brief, or something else entirely.

I think he meant nobody appreciates overlong albums anymore, they want short albums, that's how I read it?

I'm cool with any option, as long it's not exclusively 7 inch singles which I have no means of playing!

God yes. I like Cds, I don't like vinyl, not even that keen on download-only stuff, the CD is KIng.

[Ean]

Aye, Apparently.

From CMU Daily:

PEOPLE STILL LIKE CDS, SHOCKER

Sometimes it's too easy to assume the CD is already dead in the water, but while the format is clearly in decline, it's still pretty dominant. And, according to that previously reported research report from the Music Ally people and their research outfit The Leading Question, a majority of people still prefer buying CDs to downloading MP3s - and even teenagers aren't especially down on the physical format.

As previously reported, The Leading Question spoke to a thousand music fans about their buying habits. 73% of those surveyed were happy buying CDs rather than downloading, while 59% said they still listen to music on CDs on a daily basis. Perhaps most surprisingly, 66% of teens said they prefer CDs to buying music via download stores.

The Leading Question's Tim Walker told CMU: "Digital is still the future but rumours of the death of the CD are premature. The continued popularity of the CD should be looked upon as an opportunity. We believe that labels and online stores could and should be doing more to build on music fans' familiarity with CDs to provide them with additional digital content and to use the CD as a bridge into the digital world".

In related news, a blog post on the Fleeing From Pigeons website is pretty critical of this here Leading Question/Music Ally report, in particular the previously reported conclusion that file-sharing is down in the UK. As previously reported, the Leading Question research revealed that of the 1000 music fans interviewed, only 17% said they accessed music via unlicenced file-sharing networks at least once a month, compared to 22% the last time they did the survey in late 2007. File-sharing was down in the teen demographic too, from 42% to 26%. But, the FFP blog reckons, that's as much to do with the researchers' definition of 'file-sharing' as anything else.

As previously noted here, the growth in high capacity webmail accounts in recent years, plus the falling price of high capacity portable hard drives, means that a lot of people now share files with friends by emailing MP3 attachments or syncing hard drives in the playground/union bar/workplace. While file-sharing this way means that files are only shared from one friend to another, rather than from one P2P user to 5 million other P2P users, email-to-email or device-to-device file-sharing is still significant, and, crucially, generally untracked by the record companies (the latter being impossible to track without some sort of horrid digital rights management attached to music files).

FFP reckon that these other kinds of file-sharing were not included in The Leading Question's stats. Meaning file-sharing, especially among younger music fans, might not be in decline, it's just going offline.

[Damian]

It was the sentence after: "It's a way of using all the songs in a more interesting way than just making an overlong album, something that I don't think anyone appreciates anymore"... that made me think about singles, which are very much a dying breed. But it could equally have meant that nobody appreciates anymore that albums should be brief, or something else entirely.

I think he meant nobody appreciates overlong albums anymore, they want short albums, that's how I read it?

I'm cool with any option, as long it's not exclusively 7 inch singles which I have no means of playing!

God yes. I like Cds, I don't like vinyl, not even that keen on download-only stuff, the CD is KIng.

I love vinyl, it's just that I have no record player, nor the room to massively expand my collection...

[markE]

I will definitely go for the Japanese release, I'd much prefer a cd to download- only singles.

I wonder what Ginger means when he says some will find it awesome and some annoying. I can't understand what many fans would find annoying?

he could just mean that the extra tracks will be available only as downloads, which some of us old school technophobes find annoying. this happened with borderline.

[melx]

I'm still hoping for a 4-track 'tour' ep for sale at the gigs. .... people going to gigs would think it was awesome.

...and it might annoy some people if they can't get to a gig.

[sixxsixxsixx]

http://www.cargorecords.co.uk/release/9006

[melx]

http://www.cargorecords.co.uk/release/9006

is it just me or is there no lightening on that cover there??

[sixxsixxsixx]

deffo there for me! slick black gloss on matt black

[Sarc]

14 quid?, now this will seem a tad contradictory considering ive shelled out for the japanese jobby but 14 quid for a ten track album seems a tad steep does it not?

[wildsam6o]

14 quid?, now this will seem a tad contradictory considering ive shelled out for the japanese jobby but 14 quid for a ten track album seems a tad steep does it not?

was just thinking that, but ive always found cargo to lob up there prices. Any idea if HMV will be carrying the album? Im hoping so